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Post by lennie on Apr 26, 2006 5:32:15 GMT -5
Well!!!!! John Winnie it seems has got his way and introduced the 'SMART CARD'. It apparently will be mandatory for all who have any link at all to Centrelink. The reaction will be interesting. Dole Bludgers etc, watch out, Big Brother is watching you. I guess though that the rorting of the system needs to be combated somehow. VOTE NOW.  |
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Post by lennie on Apr 27, 2006 1:18:41 GMT -5
I guess the funny thing about the 'Smart Card' is that by the time the Govt gets around to doing it we'll probably have a change of Political party running the show. Spoke to many people about it today and roughly 75% of them were for it. They saw it as a positive move towards tightening National Security and tidying up the welfare fraud. I guess many who do not want it have something to hide from Big Brother.  |
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Post by Flash on Apr 27, 2006 7:25:48 GMT -5
I guess the funny thing about the 'Smart Card' is that by the time the Govt gets around to doing it we'll probably have a change of Political party running the show. Spoke to many people about it today and roughly 75% of them were for it. They saw it as a positive move towards tightening National Security and tidying up the welfare fraud. I guess many who do not want it have something to hide from Big Brother. I wonder how many ilegal aliens there are and how many it will catch ? |
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Post by workingman on Apr 27, 2006 8:40:21 GMT -5
Doesn't it just sicken you, the oily, lying way of politicians. The smart card won't be compulsory, but without it you can't have any welfare or medicare benefits. A bit like a Tax File Number isn't compulsory.
The smart card, just like a tax file number, will effectively be compulsory. Without them you won't be able to function in society. It is a national ID card by any measure and to call it anything else is just plain deceitful.
Goodbye free society, hello totalitarian state. We are on the slippery slide now.
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Post by rambler on Apr 27, 2006 13:27:17 GMT -5
Doesn't it just sicken you, the oily, lying way of politicians. The smart card won't be compulsory, but without it you can't have any welfare or medicare benefits. A bit like a Tax File Number isn't compulsory. The smart card, just like a tax file number, will effectively be compulsory. Without them you won't be able to function in society. It is a national ID card by any measure and to call it anything else is just plain deceitful. Goodbye free society, hello totalitarian state. We are on the slippery slide now. ???WHY are you ALWAYS so N E G A T I V E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by ned on Apr 27, 2006 21:48:48 GMT -5
The Register said It looks like an ID Card. It smells like an ID Card. Heck, it even spooks you like an ID Card. But, as Australia's carbon copy Commonwealth Prime Minister says, "it ain't no ID card"
The "homeland security" strategy in Australia appears to be slowly, slowly catchee monkey. Or rather, dupee monkey with platitudes, then nab 'im with a surveillance net.
Having declared that ID cards would not be imposed on Australians, Prime Minister John Howard announced a biometric "access card" in its place. Australians will be denied access to health and social services from 2010 unless they have one of these cards.
In avoiding calling the Aussie ID card an ID Card, Howard has been able to give the impression that he has "struck a balance" between state security and personal privacy, by changing only his rhetoric.
Opponents are calling it an "ID Card by stealth" and there are many more reasons why Howard's plan looks every bit like that of his UK counterpart.
For a start, the compulsory nature of the card is being shrouded in outrageous doublespeak.
"It will not be compulsory to have the card," the Australian newspapers quoted Howard saying today. But, "It will be necessary for everybody who needs a card to apply for one."
Like Britain's card, which is optional for anyone who doesn't carry a passport, the Aussie card is optional for anyone who doesn't get ill.
Again, like Britain's card, it will be biometric, but not too biometric at first. As in Britain, the limited biometrics are presented as a sop to borderline civil libertarians. Don't worry, says Howard, the card's chip will only hold your digital photograph, not your fingerprints. They fail to mention how unreliable biometric technology is. They couldn't get anything more sophisticated working in the jittery timescale they want to do it all in.
The important thing for the authorities is once they've handed the cards out and got the supporting infrastructure and databases in place, adding new biometrics will require only an upgrade.
Australia's biometric non-ID card will be used to replace 17 existing health and social service cards. It will also be backed up by the thing that makes an ID card an ID card - a massive database, shared across government departments.
It's almost being sold like an ID card. As it's not being called an ID card anymore, it can't be sold to punters as a panacea for terrorism. It's only being sold as a panacea for petty social ills. It will stop fraud and benefits cheats, and no doubt eradicate inequality of wealth and opportunity as well
The psuedo ID card is a serious blow to liberty in this nation, surely you can cobble enough of your own thoughts together to write your own story and merely link to articles around the world, such as this?
When is a national ID card not a national ID card? That's correct my Orwellian students, its when your leader says its a "biometric access card".
Australia is set to revert back to being a prison state as all citizens are to be forced to carry the "access card" by 2010.
The card would include a computer chip with biometric information and photograph, and is 'designed to reduce welfare and identity fraud, and protect against terrorists."
In the mid 80s the Hawke Labor Government attempted to introduce a national ID card in Australia which was fiercely opposed by the Liberal Party, including the now Prime Minister, John Howard, on the grounds of infringement of liberty.
Of course now Howard is firmly entrenched within the globalist power structure he has completely changed his stance on ID cards and the accompanying biometric database recording control system.
"You have to put that against the right all of us have to expect of our Government that it takes all reasonable measures to protect us against the behaviour of terrorists," Mr Howard said.
"I think when people talk about civil liberties they sometimes forget that action taken to protect the citizen against physical attack is a blow in favour and not a blow against civil liberties."
According to a Sydney Morning Herald article, the country's attitude to the cards has also changed. An ACNielsen poll for the Herald last August found that two-thirds of Australians were willing to sacrifice privacy and civil liberties for protection against terrorists. Sixty-one per cent were also in favour of a national identity card.
The Australian ID card agenda is the identical twin of the British ID card agenda. The overall movement is global and it is one being implemented right under people's noses, piece by piece in a stealth, stepping stone like fashion.
In addition to changing the rhetoric surrounding the card, the compulsory nature of it is also being coated in Orwellian doublespeak.
"It will not be compulsory to have the card," the Australian newspapers quoted Howard saying today. But, "It will be necessary for everybody who needs a card to apply for one."
Like The British ID card, which is "optional" for anyone who doesn't carry a passport, the Aussie card is optional for anyone who doesn't get ill or pay lower taxes, with the card initially providing access to Medicare, welfare and tax benefits.
Any number of upgrades could see the card used in all aspects of life in the two countries. The ID systems in Britain and Australia equate to lifelong surveillance and an end to life as a private citizen.
Meanwhile in Scotland plans are being considered by the Scottish Executive to issue ID cards storing details of every aspect of Citizens lives.
Hundreds of thousands of Scots have already been issued with the Citizens' National Entitlement Card - a microchipped card that carries the holder's name and photo. The cards are used to access free bus or coach travel, but there are plans to link them to a central database.
This would give the Executive access to such details as people's travel movements, gym visits and reading habits. There are fears that the system could be expanded to include other information such as NHS records and benefits payments.
Scotland, a nation that fought for centuries for freedom and independence. Scotland, birthplace of William Wallace and Robert the Bruce, two huge and heroic icons of Freedom, may now have every one of its citizens registered, monitored and controlled like prisoners.
Yes the ID card is a trojan Horse for the wider reaching database state. Just as in England and Wales, Scottish citizens already have every aspect of their lives recorded onto several different databases. The components have already been introduced by stealth, now all that remains is to link them together into one massive central database hub.
Once again we can see how the ID card and the accompanying database can record, track and control our lives, but how can it prevent terrorism? No explanation has been given as to what it will do to achieve this.
In fact, the British government has even admitted that the card will not prevent terrorism. Nor will it keep us safe from fraud and identity theft. These things do not add up, the system is sold on security but it is really all about controlling the masses.
The funding for the ID agenda will be provided by selling our biometric and personal information to big business market research and promotions companies. Furthermore, we will not have access to our information, but the intelligence services and governments that are hell bent on waging illegal wars in our names will.
About 100 nations now have identity cards of some kind. The agenda to record and trace everyone is truly global and more nations are falling into the system. We don't need cards to be "entitled" to the freedoms we have earned as citizens.
I intend to leave my own country as soon as I am told I must register on the database and carry a card, but how long before there is no where free left to go? How long will it be before every US citizen is registered on an ID database? How long will it be before we truly are a prison planet?
That' s a very big, very serious dimension to the whole database and ID card issue here in Australia. With a government of such dubious credentials on their commitment to human rights playing footsies with rendition to torture countries, blanket opposition to a bill of rights, denial of the refugee convention word and spirit, denial of fundamental but inconvenient property rights like native title, and likely lots more, why trust this government on the ID lite card proposal?
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Post by keith on Apr 28, 2006 6:12:08 GMT -5
scary !!!! this is absolutely outrageous, scary scary stuff and hasn't even made a splash in the news Check out this american idea... And think about it next time you order pizza www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swfKeith |
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Post by lennie on Apr 28, 2006 7:00:48 GMT -5
scary !!!! this is absolutely outrageous, scary scary stuff and hasn't even made a splash in the news Check out this american idea... And think about it next time you order pizza www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swfKeith You're not wrong Keith Wasn't it the Australia Card that was one of the major downfalls for the Labor Govt in the 80's?. From memory, the then Liberal Party said they would chuck the idea if voted in (I stand to be corrected on this). Now almost 20 years later they come up with a scheme that they say is not compulsory but if you want to take advantage, or more so, need to take advantage of any of the Govt services you will need one. Sounds a tad sneaky to me, the way it's being done. I truely don't think we realise what the Howard Govt has in store for us. I voted for Sussan Ley (liberal) as she portrays herself as a person who cares much for her electorate and is tireless in visiting rural areas to talk to her constituents but I'm sorry Sussan Ley, with John Howard at the helm of what is becoming a slightly dictatorial Govt, I'll have to consider taking my vote elsewhere. For some weird reason the Newspapers are being very tight-lipped about the Smart Card. At the moment they are portraying the card as a means of speeding up their IT systems for health and welfare but one would think that it is only a short and easy step to us losing more of our privacy. NOTE: According to ABC Online, The Australian Privacy Foundation and it's Chair, Anna Johnston, do NOT support the introduction of such a card based on the details available to date. (The World Today'. 30th March 2006). |
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Post by straightshooter on Apr 28, 2006 11:36:51 GMT -5
That' s a very big, very serious dimension to the whole database and ID card issue here in Australia. With a government of such dubious credentials on their commitment to human rights playing footsies with rendition to torture countries, blanket opposition to a bill of rights, denial of the refugee convention word and spirit, denial of fundamental but inconvenient property rights like native title, and likely lots more, why trust this government on the ID lite card proposal?
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Post by tommygun on Apr 28, 2006 15:20:55 GMT -5
scary !!!! this is absolutely outrageous, scary scary stuff and hasn't even made a splash in the news Check out this american idea... And think about it next time you order pizza www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swfKeith That link is really excellent and aussieseek is a great site,. kiiks like people are sick of social security fraud and ilegal aliens and want this card to clear it all up, Go figure  |
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Post by lennie on Apr 28, 2006 18:00:45 GMT -5
80% of the Poll so far shows that people are in favour of a Smart Card, the main reason it seems is, Welfare Fraud and Illegal Aliens. Thats about the figure I got from just talking to people.
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Post by workingman on Apr 29, 2006 18:25:17 GMT -5
Can't any of you poor, blind sheep understand that this smart card will be cheated and defrauded just the same as the existing system is cheated and defrauded.
The welfare system in this country has tightened up enormously over the years in order to defeat welfare cheats. But now they want us to believe the very onerous requirements of the system now have had no effect and we need a smart card to stop the cheats! Bull@#&* man!
And please tell me how a smart card is going to stop illegal aliens? These people have no access to medicare or welfare payments now.
No, the smart card is not for the purpose stated by the lying politicians, it is a national ID card for the purpose of survielance and control of the population. (How long before we hear the proposal for an international or world smart card?)
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Post by lennie on Apr 29, 2006 19:07:30 GMT -5
Can't any of you poor, blind sheep understand that this smart card will be cheated and defrauded just the same as the existing system is cheated and defrauded. The welfare system in this country has tightened up enormously over the years in order to defeat welfare cheats. But now they want us to believe the very onerous requirements of the system now have had no effect and we need a smart card to stop the cheats! Bull@#&* man! And please tell me how a smart card is going to stop illegal aliens? These people have no access to medicare or welfare payments now. No, the smart card is not for the purpose stated by the lying politicians, it is a national ID card for the purpose of survielance and control of the population. (How long before we hear the proposal for an international or world smart card?) Workingman Just the reply I was waiting for. You have taken the words right out of my mouth. It's all about control and surveillence from Big Brother. The new Smart Card idea is no different to Bob Hawkes 'Australia Card'. People in this country however continue to turns their heads away from the Howard Govts consistent lies and broken promises. The Smart Card is the next step in taking away our privacy and democracy and JWH continues to blatantly say "it's not". How can you believe a man who made a "core promise" that GST would not increase the price of petrol?, How can you believe a man who at will changes the mandate for refugees?How can you believe a man who blatantly supports an anti-gun lobby just for the purpose of giving a clean image for votes. I voted for this mans party, never again. |
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Post by smartip on Apr 29, 2006 20:53:28 GMT -5
Can't any of you poor, blind sheep understand that this smart card will be cheated and defrauded just the same as the existing system is cheated and defrauded. The welfare system in this country has tightened up enormously over the years in order to defeat welfare cheats. But now they want us to believe the very onerous requirements of the system now have had no effect and we need a smart card to stop the cheats! Bull@#&* man! And please tell me how a smart card is going to stop illegal aliens? These people have no access to medicare or welfare payments now. No, the smart card is not for the purpose stated by the lying politicians, it is a national ID card for the purpose of survielance and control of the population. (How long before we hear the proposal for an international or world smart card?) Workingman Just the reply I was waiting for. You have taken the words right out of my mouth. It's all about control and surveillence from Big Brother. The new Smart Card idea is no different to Bob Hawkes 'Australia Card'. People in this country however continue to turns their heads away from the Howard Govts consistent lies and broken promises. The Smart Card is the next step in taking away our privacy and democracy and JWH continues to blatantly say "it's not". How can you believe a man who made a "core promise" that GST would not increase the price of petrol?, How can you believe a man who at will changes the mandate for refugees?How can you believe a man who blatantly supports an anti-gun lobby just for the purpose of giving a clean image for votes. I voted for this mans party, never again. We poor blind sheep want the smart card to save billions and keep Taxes Down. INTELLIGENCE agencies and police will be given access to a vast database of "biometric" photographs of Australians to be created for the new health and welfare smart card to fight terrorism and more general crime Dont leave home without it. |
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Post by apeman on Apr 29, 2006 23:19:05 GMT -5
No government has ever cared about anything other than its own power. The smart card situation is no different. The Government, unsurprisingly, is trying to give themselves more power at the individual's expense. Ironically, to take freedom from the people, they must first convince the people that it is a good thing to lose liberty, and that the politicians deserve to be reelected for so graciously relieving the country of its freedoms. They must be reelected because:
1. There is nothing so addicting as power
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2. They wouldn't want to live (really live, not as a politician) in the country they have created
Don't worry, I'm sure they mean well.
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Post by workingman on Apr 30, 2006 0:35:48 GMT -5
Your advice is superfluous Lennie because not long after its introduction you won't be aloud to leave home without it.
The biggest dilemma for criminals will be deciding which fake card/ID they should adopt before leaving home each day and the welfare cheats will have to be careful they take the right fake card that matches the fake name on the form when they go to the dole office.
I can assure you, the information forms to get one of these cards won't be any more stringent than the forms you have to fill out now to get the dole. But apparently it has been no trouble for large numbers of people to beat the various Centrelink welfare applications and get fraudulent payments so it won't be any trouble for large numbers of people to beat the new smart card system.
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Post by lennie on Apr 30, 2006 0:58:39 GMT -5
Your advice is superfluous Lennie because not long after its introduction you won't be aloud to leave home without it. The biggest dilemma for criminals will be deciding which fake card/ID they should adopt before leaving home each day and the welfare cheats will have to be careful they take the right fake card that matches the fake name on the form when they go to the dole office. I can assure you, the information forms to get one of these cards won't be any more stringent than the forms you have to fill out now to get the dole. But apparently it has been no trouble for large numbers of people to beat the various Centrelink welfare applications and get fraudulent payments so it won't be any trouble for large numbers of people to beat the new smart card system. Part of the Kulcha ain't it? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by ppyenews on Apr 30, 2006 1:45:41 GMT -5
Is a 'Smart Card' a 'Smart Move?'
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Welcome to 'Talkback Topic' - I'm Phillip Pye on
1900 93 6397 (1900 93 NEWS).
The Labor Party in the mid-1980's had a go at introducing an identity card, appropriately named the 'Australia Card'. It embodied a national identification number for each Australian Man, Woman, and Child. The number, the unique identifier, was to provide the basis for national health insurance, taxation, income support, and other transactions between Government Agencies, individuals, and service providers such as Hospitals.
The number was to appear on a plastic card issued to each adult and child in Australia replacing the medical services, and other cards. It was suggested that a photograph and other features be added to the card to support use within the private sector, in particular, replacing the Drivers Licence as the standard form of identification within Australia. The general public though were very wary of such a scheme and at the time the idea created mass media attention.
The scheme attracted criticism on the basis that;
1. It was inconsistent with the OECD data protection principles.
2. It was unlikely to reduce identity theft, service recipient fraud, or other abuses.
3. It was technically and administratively over ambitious with a flawed reliance on information of uncertain quality and transaction processing by a single database.
4. It was a blatant invasion of privacy.
There were other concerns, however after the second airing by The Senate, the idea was scrapped.
However, on October 19th last year, the Special Minister of State, Senator Eric Abetz announced that the 'Australian Government Information Management Office' (AGIMO) was developing a Smart Card framework for the Australian Government. He stated that AGIMO's focus was on an efficient and secure implementation of 'Smart Cards' by Government Agencies. Senator Abetz also stated that the framework will also ensure interoperability through the development of agreed standards.
He said the the 'Smart Card' is being developed so that the Government can harness the technologies needed to;
1. Obtain a secure 'Smart Card' solution.
2. Accomplish the objectives of Government initiatives.
3. Remain consistent with Government regulations, directives, and standards.
Sounds a bit confusing, for starters, What are the Governments objectives? and what are the Governments regulations, directives, and standards.
The reason for the 'Smart Cards' the Government says, is to better the delivery of Health and Welfare Services. They say it is not compulsory yet if you want to tap into any Government service, you will have to have one. Who doesn't have to tap in to a Government service?, I say it's a somewhat rhetorical statement by the Government.
The question is though, what will it develop into in the future? Will it be a National ID card? Will it become a method of national surveillance? The Australia Privacy Foundation and it's Chair, Anna Johnston DO NOT support the introduction of such a card based on the details available to date. At a time when the Opposition Labor Party's strength is at a low ebb and there is 18 months to go before another Election, the Liberal Government appears to be somewhat brash in it's methods of changing and introducing legislation. They obviously feel they can easily get away with much, and there is d**n all that the average person in Australia can do about it. It is all about control. The big question that each individual needs to be asking is - IS A 'SMART CARD' a 'SMART MOVE?'
I'm Phillip Pye
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Post by lennie on May 1, 2006 0:09:02 GMT -5
Figures to support a 'Smart Card' are dropping. Only 66% now support the introduction of the card. You can vote on the Poll on this thread.
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Post by dobbie on May 1, 2006 3:02:34 GMT -5
National ID Card to Help Beazley Remember Senators Names?
Australia is to have a new ID card that will help Kim Beazley remember the names of Labour senators. This is good news for the Labour leader who recently had difficulty remembering the names of Senators in South Australia, referring to Annette Hurley as Liz Hurley, Dana Wortley as Princess Diana and Linda Kirk as Captain Kirk.
Queensland Premier Warren Beattie said everyone had memory lapses, but the new ID card would “help old whatsis name remember names more easily”.
The ID-card, to be worn by every Australian around their necks at all times, has been sold to the public as a new way of cutting back on terrorism, which has killed almost one person in this country in the last hundred years. Treasurer Elvis Costello said the ID-card would help us to identify terrorists because it would include space for a person's occupation. “If it says ‘terrorist’ we’ll nab them” he explained.
Some people have expressed a concern that the card is an infringement of their civil liberties. Their names and addresses have now been forwarded to ASIO.
The cards will be colour coded according to a person’s intelligent, from the smart card, through the not-so-smart card, to the stupid card. This will help politicians and other authority figures to determine the level of condescension they use when speaking to a member of the pubic.
Kim Beazley is expected to support the ID-card proposal, as part of his continuing approach to support everything the Liberal party does. “By agreeing with everything they do we remove any discrepancies in policies” he said this week. “So people can vote for who they like, without any concerns about different policies”. The opposition leader believes this will make the decision much simpler for the voters. “It’s up to them”, he said “They vote for me, or they vote for Alan Jones”.
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Post by aussie on May 1, 2006 14:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by lennie on May 1, 2006 18:08:28 GMT -5
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Post by phill on May 2, 2006 3:29:53 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what else the Govt has in store to add the health and welfare, plenty, you can bet on it. Before you know it our whole lives will be controlled by a card.
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Post by lennie on May 3, 2006 6:54:25 GMT -5
Doesn't it just sicken you, the oily, lying way of politicians. The smart card won't be compulsory, but without it you can't have any welfare or medicare benefits. A bit like a Tax File Number isn't compulsory. The smart card, just like a tax file number, will effectively be compulsory. Without them you won't be able to function in society. It is a national ID card by any measure and to call it anything else is just plain deceitful. Goodbye free society, hello totalitarian state. We are on the slippery slide now. Dead right and the Howard Govt has become pretty good at these sort of tricks. Just for Health and Welfare? - Don't insult our intelligence!!!!!  |
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Post by lennie on May 4, 2006 1:58:11 GMT -5
Now only 54.5% support the 'Smart Card' Be counted, VOTE NOW!!!!!!!!
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Post by phill on May 4, 2006 6:10:13 GMT -5
Can't any of you poor, blind sheep understand that this smart card will be cheated and defrauded just the same as the existing system is cheated and defrauded. The welfare system in this country has tightened up enormously over the years in order to defeat welfare cheats. But now they want us to believe the very onerous requirements of the system now have had no effect and we need a smart card to stop the cheats! Bull@#&* man! And please tell me how a smart card is going to stop illegal aliens? These people have no access to medicare or welfare payments now. No, the smart card is not for the purpose stated by the lying politicians, it is a national ID card for the purpose of survielance and control of the population. (How long before we hear the proposal for an international or world smart card?) Certainly the Howard Government it taking the fairytale way around introducing and ID card that will certainly be used for surveillence. The stupidity of it all is we are supposed to believe them. You can guarantee that the fraudsters will find a way around it all. The fake cards won't take long to disappear. Mr Howard certainly finds some unusual methods to start new businesses  |
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Post by ppyenews on May 4, 2006 22:37:50 GMT -5
Welcome to 'Talkback Topic' - I'm Phillip Pye.
The Labor Party in the mid-1980's had a go at introducing an identity card, appropriately named the 'Australia Card'. It embodied a national identification number for each Australian Man, Woman, and Child. The number, the unique identifier, was to provide the basis for national health insurance, taxation, income support, and other transactions between Government Agencies, individuals, and service providers such as Hospitals.
The number was to appear on a plastic card issued to each adult and child in Australia replacing the medical services, and other cards. It was suggested that a photograph and other features be added to the card to support use within the private sector, in particular, replacing the Drivers Licence as the standard form of identification within Australia. The general public though were very wary of such a scheme and at the time the idea created mass media attention.
The scheme attracted criticism on the basis that;
1. It was inconsistent with the OECD data protection principles.
2. It was unlikely to reduce identity theft, service recipient fraud, or other abuses.
3. It was technically and administratively over ambitious with a flawed reliance on information of uncertain quality and transaction processing by a single database.
4. It was a blatant invasion of privacy.
There were other concerns, however after the second airing by The Senate, the idea was scrapped.
However, on October 19th last year, the Special Minister of State, Senator Eric Abetz announced that the 'Australian Government Information Management Office' (AGIMO) was developing a Smart Card framework for the Australian Government. He stated that AGIMO's focus was on an efficient and secure implementation of 'Smart Cards' by Government Agencies. Senator Abetz also stated that the framework will also ensure interoperability through the development of agreed standards.
He said the the 'Smart Card' is being developed so that the Government can harness the technologies needed to;
1. Obtain a secure 'Smart Card' solution.
2. Accomplish the objectives of Government initiatives.
3. Remain consistent with Government regulations, directives, and standards.
Sounds a bit confusing, for starters, What are the Governments objectives? and what are the Governments regulations, directives, and standards.
The reason for the 'Smart Cards' the Government says, is to better the delivery of Health and Welfare Services. They say it is not compulsory yet if you want to tap into any Government service, you will have to have one. Who doesn't have to tap in to a Government service?, I say it's a somewhat rhetorical statement by the Government.
The question is though, what will it develop into in the future? Will it be a National ID card? Will it become a method of national surveillance? The Australia Privacy Foundation and it's Chair, Anna Johnston DO NOT support the introduction of such a card based on the details available to date. At a time when the Opposition Labor Party's strength is at a low ebb and there is 18 months to go before another Election, the Liberal Government appears to be somewhat brash in it's methods of changing and introducing legislation. They obviously feel they can easily get away with much, and there is d**n all that the average person in Australia can do about it. It is all about control. The big question that each individual needs to be asking is - IS A 'SMART CARD' a 'SMART MOVE?'
I'm Phillip Pye.
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Post by kerry on May 5, 2006 2:49:18 GMT -5
BIG BANKS - PROFITS BEFORE PEOPLE
Greens member Kerry started a campaign against the profiteering of the big four
banks today after Westpac announced another record profit after
putting up ATM fees by 33%. The Greens are calling for federal
regulation of bank fees and charges and will be announcing
initiatives in this direction in the coming weeks.
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Post by lennie on May 5, 2006 7:01:25 GMT -5
BIG BANKS - PROFITS BEFORE PEOPLE Greens member Kerry started a campaign against the profiteering of the big four banks today after Westpac announced another record profit after putting up ATM fees by 33%. The Greens are calling for federal regulation of bank fees and charges and will be announcing initiatives in this direction in the coming weeks. You'd think PM Howard and Costello would have already done just that, there again, they allow the finance sector to control them. Isn't it about time this senseless Govt got hiffed? |
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Post by fusil on May 6, 2006 2:55:48 GMT -5
You've got to hand it to this Government. At one stroke with the 'Smart Card' they have clipped the wings of the terrorists. Because the card will be foolproof , and there will be no chance of forging it, the terrorists will have to recruit within Australia We know that no citizen, particularly one that had been honoured with a genuine Australian Identity Card, would ever contemplate a terriorist act in his/her own country ;D ;D. If the British had moved faster they could have prevented the London bombings; if only they'd moved quicker those bombers would have been card carrying anti-terrorists. We should all get behind the PM on this. Fusil. |
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