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Darce as a "friend of the ABC" Why continue to use old outdated
props to your spin like "Mr Johns"
There are so many others who watch the bias and know otherwise
As for advertising on the ABC..
What is the problem?
Its OK on SBS.. OK on the BBC
And certainly for the net. Look at the BBC Online advertising could
net the BBC £105m and will enable it to provide better services
Imagine what the ABC could do with
a similar cash flow from the internet
Why such a wall of created opposition
As a Taxpayer I want you to compete on my behalf against the
commercials
.
It could be so good for you
.
I am talking about adding value and extra money apart from funding to
the
abc coffers pn an undertaking that the taxpayer cash flow will not be
decreased. Taking advertising will bring more money for production and
service expansion. Want an example?
It annoys me that the
ABC TV provides no local news content in regional areas like
Newcastle.
Once upon a time there was at least
a 5 minute hunter news service
before the 7pm news... but no longer
Increased revenue from advertising could fund this for instance
Perhaps we could start with advertising
on JJJ, Local Radio and Radio Australia television and radio and as
experiment on ABC2 TV which would use the revenue to buy transmitters
to build a second terestial TV network
We re missing out!! at the moment for instance the BBC has done a
deal with YouTube
Google and the BBC will share revenue generated from advertising on
the BBC Worldwide and BBC World channels
Putting advertising on the ABC also brings it all out in the open.
How much covert adverting is there already on the ABC?
Why does the Howard government
ontinue to protect the advertising
revenue of the commercial stations
by not running ads on the ABC :?
It is Time.
On Jun 14, 9:18 am, Darce <Darce.Cass...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Gavin writes that the ABC's "efforts to make itself unbiased" have not
> worked, and that because of this ABC radio should be sold off.
> However he does not produce any evidence that the ABC is biased.
> If the ABC were biased, we would expect some evidence from independent
> opinion polls.
> Newspoll, an established opinion polling company, owned by Rupert
> Murdoch's News Limited, has been surveying public attitudes to the ABC
> for many years.
> For the years 2002-6 inclusive Newspoll has found around nine in ten
> Australians believe that ABC news and current affairs programs are
> doing a good job with regard to being fair and even handed. The
> specific figures are as follows.
> 7.00 PM TV News 95% (2002) 93% (2003) 94%
> (2004) 94% (2005) 95%(2006)
> 7.30 Report 89% (2002) 87% (2003) 89%
> (2004) 91%(2005) 93%(2006)
> "A.M", "P.M." 89% (2002) 90% (2003) 91%
> (2004) 88% (2005) 89%(2006)
> The World Today 86% (2002) 85% (2003) 90%
> (2004) 88% (2005) 85%(2006)
> In case it is suggested that Newspoll itself is biased in favour of
> the ABC what do other polls suggest?
> The Age reported John Stirton, Research Director of AC Neilsen
> Research as follows:
> "Many politicians may be surprised by Australians' perceptions of the
> media, especially those most vocal about the alleged bias of the ABC.
> Brian Johns, the departing managing director of the ABC, would be much
> encouraged by the fact that 70 per cent of Australians believe that
> ABC coverage of news and current affairs is more balanced than that
> provided by the commercial networks. "
> (The Age 20 March 2000)
> If this is not convincing, what does the official government regulator
> think?
> A survey commissioned by the Australian Broadcasting Authority,
> conducted by Bond University and reported in the Australian on 3 May
> 2001 revealed that :
> * Respondents considered Kerry O'Brien of the ABC's 7.30 report the
> most credible journalist, reporter, presenter of columnist across
> television, radio, newspaper and the Internet.
> * ABC News topped the list as the most credible news and current
> affairs program, column or internet site
> * Only 3% of respondents rated ABC programs in the 'least credible'
> category (1.6% rated the 7.30 Report least credible and 1.4% rated ABC
> news least credible.) By comparison Channel 9 News and Current Affairs
> programs rated a whopping 59.2% for lacking credibility. (A Current
> Affair 26.9%, 60 Minutes 18.7%, National Nine News 4.5%)
> Darce
> On Jun 13, 8:04 am, Gavin <queenslandro...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > I thought the ABC had the lowest denominater crap out of the lot.
> > Its efforts to make itself unbiased has not worked. I reckon
> > you could at least sell off all the radio stations. They sound like
> > shit! We
> > as taxpayers fund the ABC for it's ability to broadcast unbiased
> > reports.
> > Not watered down censored PC garbage that seems to always flow from
> > it.
> > On Jun 13, 7:56 am, John <littlejo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Those who claim the government should fund the ABC to keep unbiased
> > > news on the
> > > air have missed the boat. I believe the ABC should be privatised and
> > > carry advertising
> > > Obviously since their funding comes from the
> > > government, they will be supporters of left wing socialist causes that
> > > are based
> > > on the premise that we are better off having the government fund and
> > > run
> > > everything.
> > > I believe the ABC should be privatised and funding should be given to
> > > those who
> > > create educational documentaries. Because they compete with private
> > > stations in
> > > areas such as news & drama's, market share would go to the competition
> > > if these
> > > ABC programs went off the air, meaning other stations would have more
> > > to spend
> > > on their own program content.
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Darce as a "friend of the ABC" Why continue to use old outdated
props to your spin like "Mr Johns"
There are so many others who watch the bias and know otherwise
As for advertising on the ABC..
What is the problem?
Its OK on SBS.. OK on the BBC
And certainly for the net. Look at the BBC Online advertising could
net the BBC £105m and will enable it to provide better services
Imagine what the ABC could do with
a similar cash flow from the internet
Why such a wall of created opposition
As a Taxpayer I want you to compete on my behalf against the
commercials
.
It could be so good for you
.
I am talking about adding value and extra money apart from funding to
the
abc coffers pn an undertaking that the taxpayer cash flow will not be
decreased. Taking advertising will bring more money for production and
service expansion. Want an example?
It annoys me that the
ABC TV provides no local news content in regional areas like
Newcastle.
Once upon a time there was at least
a 5 minute hunter news service
before the 7pm news... but no longer
Increased revenue from advertising could fund this for instance
Perhaps we could start with advertising
on JJJ, Local Radio and Radio Australia television and radio and as
experiment on ABC2 TV which would use the revenue to buy transmitters
to build a second terestial TV network
We re missing out!! at the moment for instance the BBC has done a
deal with YouTube
Google and the BBC will share revenue generated from advertising on
the BBC Worldwide and BBC World channels
Putting advertising on the ABC also brings it all out in the open.
How much covert adverting is there already on the ABC?
Why does the Howard government
ontinue to protect the advertising
revenue of the commercial stations
by not running ads on the ABC :?
It is Time.
On Jun 14, 9:18 am, Darce <Darce.Cass...@gmail.com> wrote:
- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
> Gavin writes that the ABC's "efforts to make itself unbiased" have not
> worked, and that because of this ABC radio should be sold off.
> However he does not produce any evidence that the ABC is biased.
> If the ABC were biased, we would expect some evidence from independent
> opinion polls.
> Newspoll, an established opinion polling company, owned by Rupert
> Murdoch's News Limited, has been surveying public attitudes to the ABC
> for many years.
> For the years 2002-6 inclusive Newspoll has found around nine in ten
> Australians believe that ABC news and current affairs programs are
> doing a good job with regard to being fair and even handed. The
> specific figures are as follows.
> 7.00 PM TV News 95% (2002) 93% (2003) 94%
> (2004) 94% (2005) 95%(2006)
> 7.30 Report 89% (2002) 87% (2003) 89%
> (2004) 91%(2005) 93%(2006)
> "A.M", "P.M." 89% (2002) 90% (2003) 91%
> (2004) 88% (2005) 89%(2006)
> The World Today 86% (2002) 85% (2003) 90%
> (2004) 88% (2005) 85%(2006)
> In case it is suggested that Newspoll itself is biased in favour of
> the ABC what do other polls suggest?
> The Age reported John Stirton, Research Director of AC Neilsen
> Research as follows:
> "Many politicians may be surprised by Australians' perceptions of the
> media, especially those most vocal about the alleged bias of the ABC.
> Brian Johns, the departing managing director of the ABC, would be much
> encouraged by the fact that 70 per cent of Australians believe that
> ABC coverage of news and current affairs is more balanced than that
> provided by the commercial networks. "
> (The Age 20 March 2000)
> If this is not convincing, what does the official government regulator
> think?
> A survey commissioned by the Australian Broadcasting Authority,
> conducted by Bond University and reported in the Australian on 3 May
> 2001 revealed that :
> * Respondents considered Kerry O'Brien of the ABC's 7.30 report the
> most credible journalist, reporter, presenter of columnist across
> television, radio, newspaper and the Internet.
> * ABC News topped the list as the most credible news and current
> affairs program, column or internet site
> * Only 3% of respondents rated ABC programs in the 'least credible'
> category (1.6% rated the 7.30 Report least credible and 1.4% rated ABC
> news least credible.) By comparison Channel 9 News and Current Affairs
> programs rated a whopping 59.2% for lacking credibility. (A Current
> Affair 26.9%, 60 Minutes 18.7%, National Nine News 4.5%)
> Darce
> On Jun 13, 8:04 am, Gavin <queenslandro...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > I thought the ABC had the lowest denominater crap out of the lot.
> > Its efforts to make itself unbiased has not worked. I reckon
> > you could at least sell off all the radio stations. They sound like
> > shit! We
> > as taxpayers fund the ABC for it's ability to broadcast unbiased
> > reports.
> > Not watered down censored PC garbage that seems to always flow from
> > it.
> > On Jun 13, 7:56 am, John <littlejo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Those who claim the government should fund the ABC to keep unbiased
> > > news on the
> > > air have missed the boat. I believe the ABC should be privatised and
> > > carry advertising
> > > Obviously since their funding comes from the
> > > government, they will be supporters of left wing socialist causes that
> > > are based
> > > on the premise that we are better off having the government fund and
> > > run
> > > everything.
> > > I believe the ABC should be privatised and funding should be given to
> > > those who
> > > create educational documentaries. Because they compete with private
> > > stations in
> > > areas such as news & drama's, market share would go to the competition
> > > if these
> > > ABC programs went off the air, meaning other stations would have more
> > > to spend
> > > on their own program content.